DiS: What are your plans for Christmas and the New Year? Its such a great sermon to spit, its so righteous and damning. Lias choice of clothing in U Instead Of Thought might cross one boundary too many for some, however. You know, theres a Maya Angelou quote where someone was asking hershe disliked Thomas Wolfes book, You Cant Go Home Again. And someone asked her, why dont you like that book? But no, its just that I havent been able to see my brethren in arms much lately, Ive spent the pandemic writing about them instead of playing with them. I dont understand where the line is. After its release, the partnership took concepts from the album to form a new band called the Moonlandingz. This is the last picture I took before the underwear came off. It was genuinely inclusive. He realised that many of Fat White Familys misgivings with the British indie rock scene that surrounded them during their rise to notoriety in the early 2010s - how tame and redundant of any libidinal energy a lot of that was - could be solved with the kind of spirit he found in the Berlin club. To find out more, click here. Around this time i met and fell completely in love with a girl from school whom Id been passionately staring at in the corridors, classes and halls for the last three years. Who is he to deny these people a pride in their national identity?" 7 March 2008. Our government and your governmentits almost like nobody actually knows what theyre doing. But how will COVID-19 effect gigs? Then, one evening lying on her bed alone while she was in the bathroom next door getting ready to go out, Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie came over the stereo, which is basically just a poem about the nature of integrity inspired by Guthries Bound For Glory. If you love what we do, you can help tQ to continue bringing you the best in cultural criticism and new music by joining one of our subscription tiers. Retrieved 7 May 2021. Published 24 February 2022 by White Rabbit. Loyal to the core! Thats a long running project. The multi-ethnic South London-based Fat White Family has been called the 'sonic equivalent of society coming unhinged.' Their raucous onslaught is leavened with humor and social commentary, as seen in the titles of their albums (Champagne Holocaust, Serf's Up) and singles ("I Am Mark E Smith,' 'Whitest Boy On the Beach').Ingrid Jensen spoke with FWF's front man Lias Saoudi for PKM After a period away from electronic production, they were just recently returning via a casual project with Quinn Whalley of the sleazy acid house duo Paranoid London, mainly as an excuse to socialise and have a drink. I liked uppers and socialising and chasing girls around. It didnt sell mega-well or anything like that, but loads of really cool people liked it. It found early admiration from influential DJs like Jacob Meehan, Derek Plaslaiko and Dark Entries boss Josh Cheon, for example. Its the combination of the beat and the sex noises that make me want to dance. Theres every kind of sentiment to be explored. Learn how your comment data is processed. Life doesnt work like that. Bang to rights, The book is not always kind to Saoudis bandmates, however. It was a real trip. Since forming in 2011, Fat White Family have released three acclaimed albums of insalubrious post-punk and are known for their provocative live performances. Happy birthday Yayoi See Yayoi's biggest gallery exhibition yet opening May 12th at . Jeannette Lee and Kim Sion had excellent suggestions. Other collections are more conscious: books, records, trainers, T-shirts, likes. I think thats something Id like to move away from: monotone rage and anger. The process of writing forced Saoudi to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. Ladies and Gentlemen, this then is Lias Saoudi. There is infighting, substance abuse, the unlikely success of 2013 debut album Champagne Holocaust, squats, sackings, an appearance on The Late Show with David Letterman, songs called Love is the Crack and Goodbye Goebbels, rehab and, ultimately, with the release of Serfs Up in 2019, something like redemption. What does the collecting impulse say about us humans? Retrieved 19 April 2019. Ultimately, it all comes back to the central philosophy that emerged when they first started messing around after Lias Berghain trip the casting off of outside pressures, an emphasis on release. It was sort of like rehab, says Saoudi. The histories relate quite closely. Adamczewski was thrown out in 2015 (he has since been welcomed back, is clean and recently became a father for the first time). It did not go quite as planned. I dont know. Saoudi, the frontman who has masturbated on stage, written a song about Harold Shipman and once smeared himself with his own excrement during a gig (The rest of the tour sold like hot cakes after that), is still as provocative as ever. Id go as far as saying its tantamount to blaming the slave for his chains. In recent years Ive noticed this awful feeling creeping over me every time I pick up my phone to select a track if theres folks round my flat. But then it also hasnt helped my martyr complex. Lias Kaci Saoudi from Fat White Family performs at We Love Green Festival Day 02 on June 5, 2016 in Paris, France. Put a blanket ban on a term? PKM: It seems like another way for the government to track you. Theres no deeper concept behind them and no deliberate provocation, they insist other than doing just that. We recorded in one long take, straight on the record, no edits necessary, says Luke. From then on, Weve really been punching above our weight in terms of where weve played so far. He cites raucous shows at Fold in Canning Town and a New Years Eve show at the now defunct Tottenham club The Cause, as similarly important. I think doing this was really helpful and cathartic, says Saoudi. Ratfucker by Armand Schaubroek https://trouserpress.com/reviews/armand-schaubroeck-steals/. It shouldnt be like this, I tell myself, I should care more than I do. Its not a bad show, you know., Enjoy unlimited access to 70 million ad-free songs and podcasts with Amazon Music Sign up now for a 30-day free trial, He pauses. Depending on what kind of guests you have round for tea or whatever, its the ultimate coffee-table placement the ultimate conversation-starter. Lias Saoudi. Also, its that thing where youre not part of the city. Last time I saw him it was complete shithouse, he has a rep for shithouse live gigs which hes carefully cultivated for about 30 years. The only thing that could destroy us is even a modicum of success, Lias jokes. Its an exquisite little collection of poems. Last of the old school rock and roll frontmen, former Blur devotee, This was long, long, long before the preposterousness of the whole thing. Their second album, Songs for Our Mothers, was released in 2016 by the Without Consent label. I definitely feel like I dont have a tribe.. This was definitely the most fun Ive had making record, and hopefully weve engineered it so its kudos-proof. Open a drawer. I went to one the other day and I thought that was the best possible way young people could come back together after something like that. The worlds defining voice in music and pop culture: breaking whats new and whats next since 1952. The black pill is what I subscribe to at this point. Rummage in the pockets of your coat. It was released in 2014 in the U.S. on Fat Possum Records. Lead guitarist Saul Adamczewski was previously the frontman of indie pop band the Metros, which also featured Fat White Family's bass player, Joe Pancucci. I want to morph into a writer at some point, like at age 40. Photograph: Joseph Okpako/WireImage. Lias Saoudi celebrates his birthday with a Fat White Family sing-song down the Easycome teaming up with fellow Fat Whites, Saul Adamczewski and Alex White on. The kids in Cookstown, Northern Ireland, had few pastimes outside of . Lias Saoudi: Exactly. I hope people refuse that, completely. PKM: Lets talk about your prose writing a bit: Life Beyond the Neutral Zone, was wonderful to read, I had so much fun reading that. [6] Pledgers were given the self-released EP Crippled B-Sides and Inconsequential Rarities. I continued amassing a collection after moving to London at age 18 to study art, even adding a vinyl section to my library once the time was right. 250 subscribers in the TheFatWhiteFamily community. They make me powerful. "This was long, long, long before the preposterousness of the whole thing. Its an oxymoron. Usually its like, oh, we gotta hit this part of this cycle at this pointthats all gone. It employs a similar off-kilter aesthetic, shots of Lias buzzing around manically behind contortionist and circus performer Ephyra Ana as she stands perfectly still with an intense Mona Lisa stare, alternating with snippets of the frontman engaging in some enigmatic, submissive ritual. The Irish News. Trashmouths HQ in South London became a space for no-judgement experimentation. Id been bullied and battered a bunch of times growing up but no beating contained such archaic mystification as that one. Its different, now. I wont be able to take my shirt off anymore because Ill be all withered. There are no real rules, he continues. To me, that sounds like absolute hell. Were in Brixton, south London, longtime home of Fat White Family, to talk about Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, a memoir of sorts by Saoudi and the journalist and novelist Adelle Stripe. Between them they had the entire back catalogue including all the Bootlegs. Hes at liberty to capitulate if he likes, says Saoudi, who uses the word in Fat White Family song Feet. And a birthday shout-out (in cartoon form) to the one & only David Attenborough. To the four winds was scattered my collection. Saodi added, "When you grow up economically oppressed in a world which offers you ever diminishing prospects, a world where violence and abuse are the norm, sooner or later the hopelessness of it all has a fairly good chance of morphing into hatred: labelling these people scum isnt progressive, its decadent. I dont think Ive read anybody who manages to cut that open and dissect it so well. Its constantly shifting. Their debut album, Decius Vol. PKM: Absolutely. Nobody was the focal point, everybody was the frontperson. And Ill be tired of being around drugs and boozing and all that stuff, so I was thinking, if I slowly usher myself into that other realm, maybe Ill make it out alive. Whats happening now has really disturbing shades of authoritarianism. What about Keir Starmer? Hes not proud of it but at the same time, you know, it was an incredibly bleak period for him. Gallerist Sadie Coles sheds light on the motivations of art collectors in our Q&A. It was only ever really going go one way to a certain extent, which was complete anti-authoritarianism. The easiest way to gain popularity online of course, is simply to regurgitate what everybody else already believes. Lias Saudi, performing here with Fat White Family at End of the Road Festival in Farnham in 2018, made a solo appearance at the Windwmill in Brixton as the second lockdown looms BURAK CINGI . Everything was all mixed up. ", The Fat White Family vocalist also wrote that the band "represent everything that is wrong with contemporary cultural politics, with a left to whom the future used to belong, in defeat now collapsing into whimsical utopianism. Next was the single "I Am Mark E Smith" (referencing singer Mark E. Smith of the Fall), released 15 December 2014.[7]. His first book, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure,co-written with Adelle Stripe (Black Teeth and a Brilliant Smile, Bloomsbury, 2019), is described by Miranda Sawyer inThe Observeras the story of a band thats always on the brink: of stardom, of madness, of brilliance, of disgrace. Lias Saoudi: Basically, yeah! In a state of frenzied arrogance around 18 months ago I took it upon myself to hurl a few digital petrol bombs at some of the country's most beloved acts from the comfort of my hovel in Streatham. Sarah Davachi plays incredibly sparse ambient stuff, all layered drones with electronic and acoustic elements, but really minimalist, subtle. THIS IS WHATS COOL! Youre just, like, excavating your own life, he says. "On my radar: Lias Saoudi's cultural highlights". Quinn wasnt present for those initial recordings, but when he heard what theyd made, he tells me over the phone in a separate conversation, it was just like, bloody hell! It was completely different to all the other house music around. Theres a poem called The Word, about the way his dad speaks. Youre crashing on couches, youre in vans, youre in planes, and with the new social distancing requirements that kind of work is going to be so different. Its basically his reading history: he picks 52 books Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Svetlana Alexievichs The Unwomanly Face of War and goes through his personal relationship with each of them. It sounds exactly like the reason we got into dance music, but fifteen years earlier says Liam, as he and his brother join Saoudi and I for drinks in a Brixton pub. Wed just hit record, go for as long as we want, says Luke. All the action from Coachella 2023 weekend one in dazzling photos, Solar and Moonbyul on the creation of MAMAMOO+: It was a road we had to achieve at some point, Evil Dead Rise: inside the years scariest horror film, Triviums Matt Heafy talks loving Call Of Duty and Final Fantasy in Playback, Nicholas Hoult: Skins captured that moment Euphoria captures it now. You reach a point where your attention span is just battered in. I told them I thought Sash! Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi, Paranoid London's Quinn Whalley, and Trashmouth Records' Luke and Liam May discuss their sleazy, seedy new project Decius. If youre a younger band, just starting outand youre yet to carve out a following for yourselfwhats the point of doing it online if nobodys watching? And he is appalled by what he describes as the establishment of a state of self-surveillance. It should be dirtier, it should be harsher., It is hard to imagine how it could be. I used to get my pocket money on a Thursday from my mum and then go down to the record shop in Cookstown, Northern Ireland, and buy one or two CDs every week until I had a collection., I was really young, I mustve been ten or something. Lias Saoudi: It was really good. I remember the single came on and that was the first time I was like I have to go get that., My big brother was obsessed with Britpop so by extension I was also obsessed with Britpop. He looks healthy and together now a far cry from the increasingly emaciated, tortured figure who haunted the stage as the band he formed in 2011 with his brother Nathan and Saul Adamczewski slowly ripped itself apart, poisoned by drugs, alcohol and ego. Im constantly looking for somewhere to kind of like, make home, but it never really adds up. Im off.. Otherwise everything you write is like just absolute drivel. Lias Saoudi: Oh, sort of like auto-fiction vibes? But it also serves practically as an incredibly useful guide to what you might read next. (Seen and called, Connan.) For me, straight down the middle post-post-punk represents a collapse into nostalgia, born out of a refusal of the present, in a world where the future has been all but cancelled. That behaviour is tied to the darkest points of his addiction and Saul was very, very candid with me. Abject hopeless nihilism. Fat White Family will be back in NYC this week for CMJ, having been added to the NME showcase at Glasslands on Wednesday (10/22) with Public Access TV, Bo Ningen, Twin Peaks, Happyness, The Wytches, and Girlpool. Its really hard to find that place again once its got some kudos, then youre suddenly in this hall of mirrors of anxiety and expectation. Ive been reading loads of stuff like that recently. Any hardcore fans of the Fat White Family will be greatly relieved to know that the famously tempestuous band were not locked down together, an occurrence which would surely have resulted in injury, death, or nervous breakdowns. I though it was one of the most positive things Id seen on the streets of London, ever. She was the only person seemingly in the whole vicinity that had interests like my own: she loved music, books and films and had a tinge of goth about her general demeanour. It was that place that Id always imagined moving to London but never really found., In the days afterwards, he started to think about how he could bring that bacchanalian spirit to his own work. As a wholly independent publication, we rely entirely on our ad bookings to keep The Quietus going. If it makes him feel any better, the tundra of abuse I received from both his fanbase and that of the Sleaford Mods after that outburst did rattle me to the core. Join us. Some music . To have such intricate writing these days, in an online essay, is so rare, because people get to the point so quickly and cut things down so sparsely, and the kind of writing I like to read best is pretty much the style you have. To find out more, click here. It was a club, everyone was super hip, it wasnt my patch. In this month's Low Culture subscriber podcast Luke Turner is joined by Lias Saoudi of Fat White Family, co-author with Adelle Stripe, of Ten Thousand Apologies, the brilliant and now best-selling account of the band's slow, troubled rise and. "We've got a little four-piecejust a . Keep a lid on it till somebody finds a vaccine? You dont want to be in the middle of the countryside with just a dog, do you? I havent learned how to do that during lockdown. Lias Saoudi, the band's frontman, has a reputation for shedding clothing at . We did a few demos earlier on in the year. A feast of snakes by Harry Crews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feast_of_Snakes, 6. The Fat White Family frontman on sonically tripping to Sarah Davachi, rewatching Threads and a heroic history of poo in art. Address: The Social 5 Little Portland St London W1W 7JD. Mon 20th Sep 2021 14.45 BST. Hes a historical figure that time is about to extinguish, reflecting back on all of that musical history. ", Get the Best Fit take on the week in music direct to your inbox every Friday, Read Lias Saoudi's full post about IDLES on. We were both virgins, both really timid; it took us quite a long time before we explored each others bodies in full. But if you dont, its all about that early period where youre learning about the kind of communal experience and the way you feed off an energy in a crowd and theres this kind of like cyclone that gets whipped up. I think that the way the protests have broken out is really hopeful. The lead singer of Fat White Family, one of the most debauched and exciting bands to emerge in the UK this century, is rarely without a cigarette on stage or in interviews. I prefer to draw no line., Saoudi has found his stride now, but he pauses briefly to finish his Guinness. I, is released via The Leaf Label on November 4. "It was sort of like rehab," says Saoudi. To find out more, click here. I didnt have to consult with [bandmates] Saul [Adamczewski, lead guitarist] or Nathan [Saoudi, keyboard player and Lias brother], I didnt have to deal with hype. Theres other emotions I want to explore. [20], In January 2017, Adamczewski formed the band Insecure Men with Lennon (guitar), Ben Romans-Hopcraft (bass), Jack Everett (drums), Jon Catfish de Lorene (keyboards) and Alex White (saxophone). ^ Campbell, Brian (19 February 2016). It was the first time Id been truly happy creatively since I was a teenager., Or at least thats one part of the story. The publisher, White Rabbit Books, shared the news on their social media channels, writing: "Announcing Ten Thousand Apologies , Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi.". In choosing to attack two groups at once . Listen to Snow Is Falling in Manhattan by Purple Mountains. I remember having a vision that I was hanging out with my Algerian grandmother, but she was a little girl, and she was showing me around the mountains in Kabylia. It baffles me that people go out and do that for pleasure at those big gigs., The line about anal sex and I love the one about take the only tree thats left and stick it up the hole in your culture, I love the meanness of that. What are you going to do? Its awful when you get a public rinse down; I should have at least qualified my comments last year. Born to a British mother and Algerian father, he grew up in the Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Northern Ireland, before moving to London and gaining a Fine Art degree from Slade School of Art. We shouldnt go outside. But it turned out he didnt say it because he genuinely cared for the safety of the band, he said it because he had arranged to meet his dealer. [4], On 10 March 2014, Fat White Family issued their first single, "Touch the Leather", on Hate Hate Hate Records. And sometimes thats something I can really dig into and make a use out of, like literally make a song and dance out of it, and sometimes you feel kind of homeless. How was the show, apart from being in-the-raw and in-your-face? Given Saoudis history of provocation with Fat White Family, it might be wondered whether hes purposely looking to cause trouble by dressing as a geisha. It was traditionally the right who were forever trying to get things banned and cancelled, so there is a creeping sense of political homelessness if youre into avant-gardism in any way, shape or form and free expression for free expressions sake. Or did I think I was laying things away for a rainy day? The two years that its taken to pen Ten Thousand Apologies with Adelle Stripe I now refer to as the great silence. So when Lias came in it was somebody who didnt have any kind of history with it or established reference point, so it went to other places you wouldnt expect. The closest model Lias had was Alan Vega, that kind of weird, degraded white boy soul kind of thing, where you think youre a sex beast but youre scared of your own shadow., The unsettling, quivering voice Lias employed worked perfectly with the muscular, sleazy beat that Luke and Liam gave him, and eventually it became Decius debut single Come To Me Villa. First, there's the time difference he lives in the U.K. and, second, there are pranksters like his brother and band mate Nathan, who just might answer the phone pretending to be Lias. Once all that was gone, I had no hankering.". I associate that accent with my mum, so theres an inherent innocence to all the characters that makes it absolutely visceral. But then, my mums from the north of England, a working class coal mining family. Why? Lias Kaci Saoudi of Fat White Family/Moonlandingz is a difficult man to get on the phone. Lias Saoudi is the frontman of rock bands Fat White Family and the Moonlandingz. So yes, one day I genuinely had to stop myself driving up to London and finding him [Lias Saoudi, Fat White Family frontman] because I go through fits and pangs of, like: 'Fuck off, just leave us . Fat White Family @ Bowery Ballroom 10/18/2014 (photo via @alexandra_rossi). Under no circumstances would I ever willfully agree to that. Even Anish Kapoor makes an appearance. Lias Saoudi: Well, Saul got stranded in SpainWe were all supposed to meet in Algeria, and work on an album there, around where my family live, and collaborate musically with other people from that region. Maybe thats a conventional opinion. Get Lias Saoudi setlists - view them, share them, discuss them with other Lias Saoudi fans for free on setlist.fm! Last year, Sleaford Mods and Fat White Family voiced their issues about IDLES, with Sleaford Mods' Jason Williamson writing that they were "appropriating, to a certain degree, a working class voice", while Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi described the band as "self neutering middle class boobs". But I had to come back after five days because everything just went mad on the lockdown. 1. But singer Lias Saoudi and his compatriots had no such trouble. It would've been in my house, we had Michael Jackson records because my dad . So what happened? PKM: The Indian novelist Kamala Markandaya said that in order to write about something, in order to get it done, she had to be infuriated. All your different backgrounds, the influences of your families, what has that brought to the table that nothing else could? Born to an Algerian father and a British mother, he grew up in Scotland and Northern Ireland before moving to London to study at the Slade School of Fine Art. For me, the reins were off. For the others, too, the project was a release. Given Joe Talbots comments relating to my shameless trolling in The Guardian last week, Id like to take this opportunity to clarify my position. [8][9] Lias Saoudi described the album as an attempt to really to get at the shittiness lurking in the core of my own soul, and in everybody else's.[10] It was promoted with a single for "Whitest Boy on the Beach",[11] which was later chosen for the closing credits of the 2017 film T2 Trainspotting. Rage. Lias Kaci Saoudi is a writer, artist and musician, and the front man of genre-bending iconoclasts Fat White Family. [Heroin] was never the one for me. Saul was extremely controlling in lots of ways. [Laughs] That was such a terrible move.Was it Shartic Monkeys?". I decided to devote my guest-edit of theObserversNew Reviewto investigating this question. Key West is ineffable. I decided that on the basis of my intellectual merits and soaring grades I was beyond reprimand of any kind, that should I choose to humiliate myself rigorously using only my confused self image and a jar of sculpting gel I should be free to do so. So yes, one day I genuinely had to stop myself driving up to London and finding him [Lias Saoudi, Fat White Family] because I go through fits and pangs of, like: 'Fuck off, just leave us alone'. So what begins as a kind of formulaic rereading ends up becoming quite shocking, exposing borderline damning bits of self-exhibition and self-laceration. Lias Saoudi: I read aboutthere was some stuff in this country about there being like a tracing app, stuff like that, and people having to have like the right verification on their phone before they can go to a festival. You can get in with a CMJ badge too (based on capacity). Each page reveals fresh depravities and triumphs. I cant stop listening to it. So it really did get kind of monstrous as a result. I think having pals like that around constantly can breed a certain kind of entitlement in you if youre not careful. The second surprise is his appearance. Julian House designedGood Pop, Bad Pop& also brought his unique graphic sensibility to bear on this edition of theNew Review. Its been a long time coming, but you can now buy your pal/lover/offended party a subscription to Loud And Quiet, for any occasion or no occasion at all. But this was just spellbinding, it was such a dense experience. Photo courtesy of Lias Saoudi. 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